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Rebecca Osterland's avatar

Also interesting that alcohol limits were removed.

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Bradley Bertoniere's avatar

My first thought when seeing the new pyramid: Michael Easter isn’t going to like seeing oatmeal in the bottom 1/3.

My second thought: where’s the McDonalds, Monsters, and Nerd Clusters?

My third thought: yeah I should probably ensure I get my 5 servings of fruits and vegetables every day.

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Michael Easter's avatar

They’ll take my oatmeal from my cold dead hands.

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Bradley Bertoniere's avatar

😂

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Rob's avatar

Always appreciate your thoughtful, grounded responses to these things. A calm voice in a sea of "hot takes" and "my team your team". Thanks Michael!

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Michael Easter's avatar

Maybe one day I'll go off the rails—but apparently not today lol.

Thanks for reading the post.

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Robyn's avatar

Michael, as always a balanced view. For all his faults, I’d like to think RFJ genuinely believes he is doing the right thing, even when his right thing is indeed the wrong thing as demonstrated by years of scientific research. Therefore, I am even more frustrated when some of these recommendations either contain errors or is intentionally misleading.

As you dutifully pointed out, these recommendations influence policy and the expenditure of billions of dollars. For that reason alone, this work should be guided by common sense and research, and unfortunately that doesn’t seem to be wholly the case.

Thanks for your analysis!

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Ryker's avatar

Trying to figure out if that's tuna or sardines being represented by the canned fish graphic.

Looks like a tuna, but it needs to be a 'dine.

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Isaac Stephenson's avatar

Diet seems like an area where compromise and moderation give you best results.

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Joe T's avatar

When I first saw those guidelines my immediate reaction was to lament the fact that I'm not a cardiologist. I could retire in under a decade with this pyramid.

While "eating whole foods" broadly sounds great, the sheer number of inconsistencies you point out give me the opposite of the warm and fuzzies. I'd like to think that most folks have had enough heart disease in their family to have some sense, but I'm more than halfway expecting heart disease rates to go up and "butter influencers" to unironically become a thing.

Butter Bar, anyone? https://youtube.com/shorts/oTdEI1yZANg?si=ByRoQm3uXIKwPwbg

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Michael Easter's avatar

I almost put a joke about cardiologists having plenty of future work in the post. Lol.

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Carlo's avatar

The level of incompetence is astounding.

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Louis Burns, PhD's avatar

Maybe my circle is a bunch of weirdos, but just about everyone I've seen eat regularly is chronically undereating protein. They're worried about getting fat (or, often, fatter). So they snack on carbs between meals instead. I had one friend I had to convince to try to eat at least 50 grams a day because she wasn't getting even that much.

The time to avoid sarcopenia is long before you get it. Overeating high-quality protein (if you practically can without extra effort) is much less harmful than protein deficiency. It's not just the calories. You can certainly develop metabolic syndrome while in energy balance.

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Adam's avatar

Butter contains pentadecanoic acid, which is linked to a variety of health benefits. You don't need to overeat, but enjoy it here and there should be okay.

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Mee McNeil's avatar

Not to get political but this food pyramid is nothing more than a political scheme. I wonder what it’s like to have guidelines and information posted for the public that stems purely from a scientific standpoint, whether it’s food or medicine or whatnot and to actually back it all up with actions and real actionable policies? As I’ve stated before, we have millions of Americans going hungry-in a world of abundance-and we are concerned about how we eat. If we addressed feeding everyone, making sure everyone has access to plentiful of fresh foods, then maybe this would be more relevant. Instead, we are spending billions of our tax dollars on other countries while we argue about free school lunches and which diet is the best diet.

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JAE's avatar

For goodness sake it’s a guideline. Not a manual for your life.

We’re not infants out here, stop treating people as such. Perhaps it’s the tendency of the government to treat us as babies why we’ve become so soft and fat. Assuming we’ll all slather butter on everything because of a government food pyramid is once again the bigotry of low expectations. Some might, if they do they have much bigger issues.

Still, I’ve never once heard anyone say I gained 20lbs, it was the food pyramid that did it!

Regardless, scoffers shouldn’t scoff so much, there’s not much to recommend the previous approach. At least someone has come along with a different idea after years of doing the same failed thing.

Here’s a guideline. Above all use your common sense and grow up.

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Michael Easter's avatar

Just noting these guidelines determine federal food programs, like school lunches.

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JAE's avatar

Again, one would hope that in an institution that purports to be of learning, like a school, common sense would be applied by grown ups to something such as dietary guidelines. Perhaps if we treat each other as capable of such, that could happen.

Instead we’ve infantilised our institutions and the results are horrible.

I’m rattling on too much. But I came to this site because I felt there may be grown ups here working at being responsible for their health. I don’t think I’m wrong. I made the assumption you set the bar high for a reason, because you have high expectations, this is good.

You clearly assume we’re capable of doing hard things. More of this please in society as a whole.

Over and out.

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Mee McNeil's avatar

Schools aren’t allowed to have common sense. You must not have kids if you think they are. These guidelines aren’t put out for shits and giggles, otherwise, most of us with common sense won’t care.

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